pup with undershot jaw

[Guest hunterside]

Evening all,a mate of mine popped round today to show me his patt pup and to give it the once over.Shes a nice little thing,quite feisty for an 8 week old bitch but there is only one problem,shes undershot!,ive took some pics so you can see,not the best but its all i could get.All i want is a straight opinion on this pups future,ive already told mi mate that he wont be able to show or breed off her.whats your honest opinion you think he should do... ie return it to the breeder,persevere with it or would the kindest thing be to have it pts,What would you all do???.

[twobobdog1 76]

Evening all,a mate of mine popped round today to show me his patt pup and to give it the once over.Shes a nice little thing,quite feisty for an 8 week old bitch but there is only one problem,shes undershot!,ive took some pics so you can see,not the best but its all i could get.All i want is a straight opinion on this pups future,ive already told mi mate that he wont be able to show or breed off her.whats your honest opinion you think he should do... ie return it to the breeder,persevere with it or would the kindest thing be to have it pts,What would you all do???.

so what if it wont win a show as long as it works and he likes it fu/k the shows

[ciaranmcman 23]

any of the best dogs ive seen work couldnt bite a biscuit but certanly didnt stop them doing ther job

[the_stig 6,614]

did he buy it for the shows it`ll still graft - how longs he had it if he`s pissed off about it ring the breeder sound him out ..

[Guest AngelicAcid]

Seen a few decent bitches that were this way, and made decent dogs.

Is it not when the line goes really tight that this starts to happen?

I think if thats true, then the qualities that were bred for might of been kept as well, therefore, thats what you want, not the jaw, but the working qualities in the genes/makeup.

Edited July 10, 2010 by AngelicAcid

[GRAHAM_2009 19]

are u serious mate putting the pup down becuase of that its not what it does in a ring wehat it works like in a field

[HGN 150]

are u serious mate putting the pup down becuase of that its not what it does in a ring wehat it works like in a field

 

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[Guest hunterside]

are u serious mate putting the pup down becuase of that its not what it does in a ring wehat it works like in a field

me personally,ive told him to persevere with it,she could turn out right in the end,he was a little pissed off because he bought the bitch to carry on his line,he has at the moment a very nice red lakeland dog.

[Simply Bull 02 11]

i have line bred pat fells pups 1dog 1bitch the bitch has an undershot jaw and the dog has rear dew claws this is because of close breeding but it is a must to keep produceing dogs of the same quality and wont effect them work wise so tell him to crack on and forget about it atb

[poacherkev 64]

Ive been a judge at a few shows for the lurchers and the terriers and when i judge its done on their working ability not on it looking pritty !!! if your mates that upset over winning a 50p rosette tell him to go and show at crufts with all the other tw**s. Undershot jaws will not stop a dog from doing it job ive been out with some lurchers lamping thats had bad undershot jaws and they still pick up the same as any other dog. He can also still breed from it as it dont always pass back to the pups and as for puting it to sleep because of it thats just stupid.

Tell him to get out there and work it if thats what he got it for

[scent 509]

could turn out to be the best workers in his kennells ,if so i hardly think he will be worried about pups being undershot.Fcuk me if they were top grafters i wouldn give a flin fcuk

[CarraghsGem 92]

personally, if i were attached to the pup i would demand at least a 50% refund from the breeder he should have picked up on the fault and culled the pup. i would never breed from that pup (or any out of those parents) breeding from animals with clear birth defects should never be condoned and anyone who does condone it needs their head looking at. i hope your mate finds another pup from a better breeder.

maybe the next time he will give the pup a full checkover before he buys.

[Guest hunterside]

Ive been a judge at a few shows for the lurchers and the terriers and when i judge its done on their working ability not on it looking pritty !!! if your mates that upset over winning a 50p rosette tell him to go and show at crufts with all the other tw**s. Undershot jaws will not stop a dog from doing it job ive been out with some lurchers lamping thats had bad undershot jaws and they still pick up the same as any other dog. He can also still breed from it as it dont always pass back to the pups and as for puting it to sleep because of it thats just stupid.

Tell him to get out there and work it if thats what he got it for

Look at this senario,if you went to pick a pup and you seen the bitch was undershot,would you still pick a pup or walk away?

[wetdogsmell 99]

personally, if i were attached to the pup i would demand at least a 50% refund from the breeder he should have picked up on the fault and culled the pup. i would never breed from that pup (or any out of those parents) breeding from animals with clear birth defects should never be condoned and anyone who does condone it needs their head looking at. i hope your mate finds another pup from a better breeder.

maybe the next time he will give the pup a full checkover before he buys.

 

i don't agree with that mate, i've seen great working dogs with defects like that, i'd rather breed from them than a cur with a good mouth

[steve 34]

undershot terriers can make great workers..in my experience terriers that are undershot are prone to losing some of the bottom row ..but this can also happen to terriers with a perfect mouth when out doing the job. as for breeding from her..yes you can..if it makes the grade and the blood line is right.. and why not. a terrier that is undershot is only a problem if the dog is a show type..even this sometimes does not matter if the judge is looking for a nice worker..which is usually rare nowadays .. hope this helps

Edited July 11, 2010 by steve